Texas Baptist Forum
Descriptive names
___After 22 years in the military, I retired in the little town of Copperas Cove, where my family and I are members of First Baptist Church. During most of my military life, I served God in the military chapels, which I saw as my primary mission field.
___Now that I'm retired and serving in a Baptist church, I must say I'm appalled at the way
some groups of Baptists treat each other. Apparently, new names are needed for the new conventions that are being created around us.
___In place of the Baptist General Convention of Texas, I propose GRUMP (Group of Unhappy Moderate Protestants). The Southern Baptist Convention should be re-named SOUR (Society of Unapologetic Reactionaries). In this way, people looking at the two groups could tell immediately what each stands for and join whichever one suits them. The GRUMPs and the SOURs could then continue fighting over trivialities and arguing about meaningless things, in full recognition of how the unchurched world views them.
___The rest of us could be known as POOR (Plain Old Ordinary Repenting) Baptists, and we could get on with the business of reaching this state for Jesus instead of building temples to ourselves in Richmond or Dallas.
___ Michael C. Phillips
___ Copperas Cove
Straight record
___Marv Knox suggests Baptists who affirm inerrancy worship the Bible, place Scripture over Jesus, view the teachings and actions of Jesus as inadequate and come close to idolatry (June 19).
___Let me set the record straight. Inerrantists honor Baptist confessions. We honor and love the Bible. We honor, love and worship the Lord. Our view of the Bible is the same as Jesus who said: "Do not think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill" (Matthew 5:17) and, "The Scripture cannot be broken" (John 10:35).
___We indeed utilize a Christological hermeneutic, but not one that sets the living word of God against the written word of God. All Scripture is equally inspired, for all of it has its ultimate source in God (2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20-21). This is the view of the Bible held by Jesus, Paul and Peter.
___The Baptist Standard's editor and other moderates apparently prefer a different view of the Bible. I believe most Baptists will find it easy to decide who they will follow.
___ Danny Akin
___ Louisville, Ky.
Defining Baptists
___When our convention approved the statement that the position of pastor is limited to men only (June 19), did they also appoint a special committee to go and tell God that he can no longer call women to preach?
___Why does it seem that each year we Southern Baptists define ourselves by who we exclude and what we are against rather than who we include and what we stand for?
___ Randy Perdue
___ Hooks
In the closet
___Are SBC leaders closet Campbellites? The spirit of Alexander Campbell seems to prevail in the SBC Committee of Cardinals.
___Our dear Church of Christ friends believe in an inerrant Bible with only one interpretation allowed. Who now will decide between contrasting infallible views?
___Maybe it won't be necessary. Since the Bible clearly states, "He who believes and is baptized will be saved," we may soon find baptismal regeneration added to the SBC creed.
___The saddest part of this whole sad scene is that many good Baptists are too ignorant of history to realize the cherished name "Baptist" is no longer deserved by the SBC.
___How ironic that the dumbing down of America by liberal educators has had such tragic consequences among a conservative people called Baptists.
___ Joe Webb
___ Marble Falls
Wrong idea
___Here is an example of interpreting Scripture by one's experience with Jesus, quoted from the Baptist Standard: "I don't believe my Jesus Christ sacrificed his life for that situation." This was said by homosexual activist Richard Murphy after stating that Soulforce speaks for all the "closeted" Southern Baptists whom he said suffer because of the denomination's stance on homosexuality (June 19).
___Obviously, this is a misinterpretation of Scripture but would be allowed by those who promote the idea that all Scripture is interpreted by one's experience with Jesus. Problem is that many have a wrong idea about who Jesus is.
___ Jim Thompson
___ Houston
Hard to read
___If Bailey Smith's proposal is that the first Sunday in October be recognized as "Reality of Hell Sunday" (June 19), then I propose the second week of June be designated "It's Getting Harder and Harder to Be a Southern Baptist Week."
___Reading the coverage of the SBC annual meeting proved to be very dark and disturbing for historical Baptist principles.
___The keepers of the faith, the Baptist cardinals, have elected Al Mohler our first pope. If it's a joke, it's not funny. If it's just a play on words, it's very telling.
___We have sent an endorsement to Dr. Laura Schlessinger. Making snap moral judgments always has been more entertaining than the more difficult work of ministering to people.
___Southern Baptists for the first time have approved a resolution supporting capital punishment. Perhaps it's our interpretation of the new and improved inerrant Bible that helps us understand that life is ours to take.
___Jerry Falwell has told us all how to vote this fall. When did one Baptist start telling another Baptist how to vote?
___But the most difficult thing to read was the displacement of the living, dynamic Jesus as the ultimate authority over matters of faith. The subtleties of this theological wrinkle may be tough to sort out for many Baptists. Thus when the cardinals tell us that it needs to be changed, we blindly do so.
___The news was hard to read.
___ Keith Herron
___ San Antonio
Not holding breath
___Now that the Southern Baptist Convention has officially put women back into the place where the leaders want them as far as church leadership goes, they might as well affirm the rest of Paul's writings that were geared to the social order of his environment.
___I am waiting to see SBC women give up their jewelry and make-up, cover their heads when they pray and sit segregated at the back of the church. Also, they should rescind their apology for racial bigotry, including slavery, because Paul admonished slaves to obey their masters and how can they do that if there are no slaves?
___Of course, Jesus had other ideas about women, but now that the SBC has shifted its worship emphasis from Jesus to Paul and his writings, which were never meant to be mandates for all the rest of our time on earth, we must by all means obey Paul.
___I hope the leaders meant it when they said that, in order to be Southern Baptists, we must be accountable to each other for what we believe. Maybe that means they now will be more accountable to the rest of us who tend to disagree with their biblical interpretations, but I am not holding my breath.
___ Frankie R. Latham
___ Point Blank
Pivotal conviction
___The historic Baptist principle of the priesthood of all believers received considerable attention prior to and during the Southern Baptist Convention meeting in Orlando.
___To clarify any doubts about what this pivotal Baptist conviction really means, the Southern Baptist Historical Society offers a pamphlet titled "Priesthood of All Believers."
___It contains three sections: "The Biblical Foundation," "The Reformation and the Priesthood," and "Baptists and the Priesthood."
___The society will send a free copy to anyone who requests it. Write to: Southern Baptist Historical Society, P.O. Box 728, Brentwood, Tenn. 37024-0728.
___ Charles Deweese
___ Brentwood, Tenn.
Women hunt, too
___It was good to read your article about the pastors who use their love for hunting and the great outdoors to open up a new mission field (June 19).
___However, they should realize it isn't just men who love to shoot and hunt; some women do too, and I hope they will include women in their efforts.
___ Tina Shaw
___ Irving
___Thanks for the article on the Texas Baptist Church Weekday Education Association (June 5). I appreciate your hearing what an important issue this is for parents these days. I can see what a Christian Association could mean in the light of teaching children. Thanks again!
___ Carolyn Andrews
___ Plainview
Revival
___ In reference to "Revival at high school sparks debate on church and state" (June 5), I
assume most of us would say that revival is a sovereign act of a sovereign God. That being true, do you think God, who sent revival to a high school, is terribly concerned about the church-state issue? One of three things is true-- it wasn't a genuine movement of the Holy Spirit; it was indeed a moving of the Spirit at a public school, in which case all strict separationists have a real problem; or God messed up and sent revival to a school when he meant to send revival to a church.
___ Come on folks. Let's quit trying to see who is more Baptist than whom and instead start praying and believing for a God-sent, Holy Spirit-empowered, Jesus-exalting revival.
___ Billy Edwards
___ Hewitt
Twisting Scriptures
___ I am responding to Greg Gilbert's and Doyle Graves' letters (June19). The issue of twisting Scriptures is dear to my heart as well. My understanding of "authenteo" is that it refers to a very strong, usurping assumption of authority. Paul probably would go so far as
to say that no human, male or female, should take on that kind of authority over anyone else. The spirit of Christ wouldn't do it (see Mark 10:42-45).
___ The relationship Priscilla had in the church and especially her teaching relationship with Apollos provides a context for balancing some of the brash interpretations some people make with respect to this passage (1 Timothy 2:12).
___ I believe the Scriptures with respect to deacons. Paul, in particular, referred to Phoebe as a deacon (masculine-title) in Romans 16. Don't let the English fool you. It is funny how people, even scholars, can twist the Scriptures to fit whatever suits them. Philip's daughters, Joel's prophecy, Paul's commendations of various women of leadership all point to the raising of all the followers of Jesus; male or female, Jew or gentile, slave or free; to the level of sonship. God has indeed spoken. Are we listening?
___ What amazes me is how we tend to take the words and even phrases of Paul, the champion of all who would put away legalism, and make them even tighter rules than he had to face with the Judaizers of his day.
___ Sam Fox
___ Weatherford
In the beginning...
___ In regard to the Southern Baptist Convention debate on Scripture, I have not notice a very powerful passage of Scripture that should stop any debate on which is higher--the
Bible or Jesus.
___ That piece of Scripture is John 1:1, which reads, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." Where does this piece of Scripture fall into place? How can we put the Bible before Jesus, or Jesus before the Bible--they are the same. By saying that Scripture (the Bible) has final authority, we are saying that Jesus has the final authority. We can say that because Jesus will not contradict the Bible, and the Bible will not contradict Jesus.
___ When we start separating Jesus from the Bible, we allow the possibility for someone to change God's standard by which he wants us to live our lives. When we starting separating Jesus from the Bible, we allow the possibility for someone to change what God sees as sin--we lose absolute truth.
___ The reason this possibility exists is because of the inherent evil nature of man to make it easier for himself to sin. We see that in the Old Testament with the Hebrews, and we see it in the New Testament with Peter making it easier on himself by denying Jesus.
___ When we start separating Jesus from the Bible, Jesus will then become whatever someone wants him to be, whether it is right or wrong."
___ Shawn Goldner
___ Fort Worth
Freedom from divisions
___ In reading the Standard one sometimes wishes it did not come to our home. The spirit of letters, articles and Editorials bring to mind the words of the Puritan, Thomas Watson,
written over 300 years ago.
___ "In that blessed kingdom there shall be freedom from divisions. In this world God's own tribes go to war. The soldier's spear pierced Christ's side, but the divisions of the saints pierce His heart. Christ prayed that all his people might be one, as He and His Father are one (John 17:21). But how do Christians by their discords and animosities go about with all their power to frustrate Christ's prayer! But in the kingdom of heaven there is perfect love, which as it casts out fear, so it casts out strife. Those Christians that could not live quietly together here, shall be united in that kingdom. There Calvin and Luther are agreed. In that celestial kingdom there shall be no vilifying or slandering one another, no raking into the sores which Christ died to heal. Christians who could not pray together shall sing together in that glorious choir. There shall not be one jarring string in the saints' music."
___ While some believe they know so much, in reality we have so much to learn.
___Richard Grant
___Highland Village
Children receiving good foundation
___ What a wonderful treat it was to read the Standard and see a great article on week-day education ministries (June 5). George Henson did an excellent job drawing an accurate picture of our work with families.
___ Here's a 1999 national statistic to consider: For every child in Sunday School on any given Sunday, there will be eight children in a church-sponsored weekday program during the week. In churches with preschools, mothers' day out programs or child care centers, that translates into approximately 25-200 or more prospects who willingly walk through the church doors one to five days a week.
___ Churches with weekday ministries answer a tremendous need in communities for safe and healthy environments for children. By providing nurturing Christian teachers, biblically based curriculum (such as the WEE LEARN series from LifeWay Christian Resources) and age-appropriate activities, churches can lay strong faith foundations and positively touch the future.
___ As our Texas Baptist Church Weekday Education Association conducts training conferences all across our state, directors and teachers share with us how their offices and classrooms have become places of outreach, prayer and ministry. Even though sometimes there are shared space and financial issues to resolve, pastors and churches would be blessed to see the commitment of these teachers and directors to the Lord and to their sponsoring churches.
___ Linda Hibner
___ The Woodlands
Nature of relationship with Christ
___ The denominational warriors are fighting on the wrong battlefield. They are dealing with scholarship theology, while the real battles of life are fought in the trenches of everyday living. The real question is not the Bible's authority vs. the authority of Jesus Christ, but rather, "What is the nature of the relationship between the Lord Jesus and the
believer?" The answers to the following questions are supremely important to the people in the pews:
___ Does believing in Jesus mean accepting the biblical truths about his life and ministry, or is it some form of spiritual union with an earthly presence of Jesus Christ?
___ Is the believer's status a legal position whereby one has been spared eternal punishment, or is it an intimate, personal relationship with a Lord who shares a person's life?
___ How does the Lord communicate his purpose for the believer's life? Is it exclusively through the words of the Bible, the counsel of a pastor, or is there some means whereby the believer knows the Lord has spoken to his, or her, specific situation?
___ How does the Lord empower the believer? Does he primarily activate and enhance the natural powers of the believer, or does he add his power from a position within the believer?
___ Is the Christian life primarily a matter of obeying the laws of God and rules of men, or is it a relationship with an ever-present Lord?
___ Dan Keeney
___ San Angelo
Define "inerrant and infallible"
___ At the Southern Baptist Convention in Orlando, I heard several references to the "inerrant and infallible word of God." We need a clarification of what is meant by those
words.
___ What are acceptable SBC definitions of "inerrant" and "infallible"? We hear the words used a lot, but what do our leaders mean when they use them?
___ Also, are we talking about the written word or the living word? Why should one be elevated above the other? I wish our leaders would speak clearly on this subject.
___ If we had a good, acceptable definition, we might find we are closer together than we thought we were. But, of course, the real problem is not the authenticity or authority of the word but our differences of interpretation of it. That is the crux of the matter.
___ We all may need a good course in principles of biblical interpretation.
___ David W. King
___ Marshall
Revised BF&M inaccurate
___ The characterization of the revised Baptist Faith & Message statement (June 19) is erroneous and inaccurate. To begin with, it is erroneous because it proposes a false
dichotomy--Jesus or the Bible. In truth, it is impossible to drive such a wedge between the two. The only difference between Jesus and the Bible is the difference between you and your words. We elevate the Bible as we do because we elevate Jesus to supreme authority. To do less is to demote Jesus. A failure to magnify biblical authority is a failure to magnify the authority of the Lord.
___ Of course, those who make existential experiences, tradition or reason their basis of authority would disagree, and I suspect this is the place from which the present debate originates.
___ In addition, this characterization is inaccurate. The revised BF&M exalts Jesus Christ as supreme Lord as often as any other Baptist confession of faith. Southern Baptists have never said Jesus is less than the Bible, and to extrapolate that from their approval of the revised BF&M is to misinterpret their action.
___ David Mills
___ Phenix City, Ala.
Prayers are with divorced ministers
___Since age 8, when I embraced Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, I have been a Southern Baptist. I was called into the ministry, licensed and ordained in a Southern Baptist Church. I earned three degrees from Southern Baptist schools, pastored Southern Baptist churches, taught Bible in a Southern Baptist student ministry building and served overseas as a Southern Baptist foreign missionary.
___ Then came divorce. After seeking and finding my heavenly Father's forgiveness, I
sought guidance from the Southern Baptist Home Mission Board's chaplains' division. They understood that since God forgives those who ask forgiveness, they should and would do the same. They encouraged me with supportive letters and continued my endorsement as a chaplain.
___ I have enjoyed this ministry to which God called me and am grateful I am retired and need not face the embarrassing decision to seek endorsement elsewhere in order to continue my ministry, since the North American Mission Board no longer will endorse divorced chaplains.
___ My prayers are with divorced Southern Baptist chaplains who now will be deprived of their endorsement because of a decision made by narrow-minded, unforgiving people.
___ I suppose, if they had their way, they would see to it that one of their own leaders, Charles Stanley, would no longer pastor the church to which he has given his life. How sad.
___ Russell A. Patrick
___ Big Spring
Argument is lacking
___ In light of the lessons of the woman of Samaria, in John 4:28-30 and 39-42 and Mary Magdalene in Mark 16:9-10 and John 20:17-20, how can Mike Richardson say, "If a
woman 'feels' the call, it cannot possibly be from God" (June 5)?
___ Jesus Christ himself enabled these women to take leadership and teaching roles. If Paul had said to Timothy what Richardson thinks he said, it would violate the harmony of Scripture based on the actions and words of Jesus Christ.
___ Likewise, his reference to 1 Timothy 2:14 as the proof text setting forth the "reasoning why God established the man to obtain the lead role in teaching and authority," is inaccurate. What is overlooked concerning the fall was the fact Eve was not alone. Adam was with her (Genesis 3:6). What then does this say about Adam, who received a command directly from God, and his ability to "teach" his wife? Eve was deceived all ight, but the Scripture Paul references shows that she at least put up a defense, which is more than can be said for Adam. He rebelled.
___ It would be more correct to conclude from the 1 Timothy reference to Genesis that males must be poor teachers and leaders. I cannot see from the example of the fall alone how men are equipped to do anything of a ecclesiastical nature better than women or vice versa.
___ Phil Schupp
___ Flower Mound
Lack of reverence
___ Your story on Fellowship Church (June 12) draws attention to a problematic trend in our churches--a lack of fear and reverence for God.
___ As churches use more seeker-sensitive methodologies that remove offending elements of the gospel, the real reason we need it in the first place becomes shrouded. We forget we are saved not so much from death but from eternal judgment for our sins at the hands of our God. When we forget this important fact, we lose our fear of Jehovah. When we lose our fear of him, we lose our ability to gain the wisdom we need to obey him (Proverbs 1:7). When we lose our ability and will to obey him, the church unravels.
___ How do we maintain our fear of God? We need set aside worldly things (like Mercedes convertibles) and dedicate ourselves to study and application of Scripture. We should not be allowing our selfish desire to be entertained dictate how this occurs.
___ Unfortunately, instead of devotion to holiness, today's marching orders are Krispie-Kreme donuts, coffee and inner-tainment. No one seems to care that these feel-good things create an atmosphere where we forget to fear the Lord and turn our hearts to the things of the world. The important thing seems to be get as many people to church by whatever means possible, and then do whatever you have to to keep them.
___ This strategy is a golden calf and does harm to our churches and our reverence of God.
___ Mike Terry
___ Dallas
Would Spirit do unscriptural things?
___ Daniel Vestal's comment, "This new statement asserts that if the Spirit leads a woman
to the pulpit and if a church is led to call a woman as its pastor, they are wrong. Who are we to question the freedom of the Spirit to call whomever the Spirit chooses? Who are we to question the freedom of an individual or church to respond to the Spirit?" (June 12) are some of the most dangerous words I've ever heard.
___ This statement puts the scriptures on the bottom shelf to individualism. Next, we would be saying, "Who are we to question the freedom of the Spirit to call a homosexual to pastor a church?"
___ There are a lot of people to whom the supposed "Spirit" has led to do some very unbiblical things. Who am I to question? I am nobody, but I am given an inspired book that I use as my guide to help me interpret what I believe the Spirit is saying.
___ The Apostle Paul said even if "an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!"
___ Randy White
___ Pampa
Sincere blasphemy
___ In the North American Missions Board's attempt to further purify religion by not endorsing divorced people, they have again excluded a great number of people. This is not
a new tactic. Jesus fought against religious purification every day. Where did the NAMB ever get the idea Christianity was pure and pretty? Surely it isn't from Christ who chose the most unlikely people as his disciples and died an unmerciful death. Surely it isn't from Paul, the first Christian Missionary, who at one time murdered people for their faith.
___ I recently read that Bob Reccord, NAMB president said, "The key goals here were to make sure what we do is Biblical, and that we're consistent." I'm familiar with the Scripture the NAMB may use to qualify their decision as biblical and the abuse these verses receive from those who are caught up in their own devoutness.
___ I am thankful for my divorce. It also sounds strange to me, but by God's grace I can say it. I did not want my divorce and it did not take place without much pain. However, I am a better person and minister due to two intense encounters - one with suffering and the other with God's inclusive and shame-countering love. The NAMB's actions make me wonder if in each of their respective climbs to the "top" they have lost their ability to be empathetic and gained a great talent for shaming those down below. To cause injury and to isolate others in the name of God has to be the most sincere form of blasphemy.
___Alan Wright
___Las Colinas
Women can serve as "shepherds"
___People worldwide, not just Baptists, are aware of the SBC action disapproving women pastors (June 19).
___ Ironically, the word "pastors" is found only one time in the King James Version of the
New Testament (Ephesians 4:11). Note the position of authority of such pastors--lower than that of apostles, prophets, evangelists. So, when we read in Acts 2 of women serving as preachers and in Acts 21 of Philip having four daughters who are prophets, we recognize their authority is at least equal to "pastors."
___ More recently, missionary Lottie Moon taught both men and women in China. One man she won to Christ went out and won over 10,000 fellow Chinese to the Lord. Would anyone question whether the Lord honored her pastoral ministry?
___ The New Testament word once translated "pastors" usually is translated "shepherds." In the biblical world as in the Near East today, women serve as shepherds as frequently, if not more so, than men do. Women, children and old men look after flocks certainly as often as young men do. This practice is quite contrary to the opinion of SBC leaders, who assert the pastor/shepherd has an authority above other Christian servants. Jesus said all authority was given to him, not to the shepherds who sometimes desire to serve but desire to rule in order to make all the important decisions in a church.
___ If SBC leaders base their opinions about "pastoral authority" on New Testament teaching, they operate on slim scriptural support.
___ Jerry Vardaman
___ Starkville, Miss.
Meaning after retirement
___ Mary Stephens was right: You can find meaning after retirement (May 29). This was her answer to some one who had recently retired, and after six months seemed to no longer be a useful member of society.
___ She offered a number of activities to give life meaning. Let me present another. Projects of Texas Baptist Men is one of the best-kept secrets we have.
___ I retired two years ago and spent that time looking for a place to be useful. I found it in Amarillo, almost under my nose. There are building projects across the state to help. "Building for the glory of God" is their motto. If a person has a craft, it can be put to use somewhere for the glory of God. A large building was just dedicated in Dallas--built by Texas Baptist Men, for disaster relief. Many encampments need workers to help construct facilities. One tremendous project is in Amarillo, where an abused women's/unwed mother shelter is being prepared.
___ Most of these work sites have RV spaces and provide some of the meals. Not a bad deal for someone who wants to be useful.
___ The pay is not much but the benefits are great!
___ Eugene Griffin
___ Stratford
Move on to doing God's business
___ I take exception to your article "SBC nominations favor new convention" (May 8).
___ I hope you don't really expect the Southern Baptist Convention to nominate Baptist General Convention of Texas-Cooperative Baptist Fellowship personnel to serve on its boards and agencies to take the SBC back to the liberal mindset before the conservative
resurgence.
___ I will ask you how many Southern Baptists of Texas Convention conservatives ever get appointed to the BGCT-CBF boards?
___ SBC-SBTC and CBF-BGCT in all reality parted ways long ago; let's move on to doing God's business.
___ All the SBTC nominees that you refer to are top-quality Christian servants. For instance, Paul Pressler's nomination to the Baptist World Alliance board could not be better. I have just finished reading his "A Hill on Which to Die," and I believe reading it would be beneficial to Baptists of all persuasions. They would get to know and understand the real Paul Pressler and not the one your paper and other liberal publications present.
___ Wade Knight
___ Georgetown
Deductions legal according to God's law?
___ I have heard sermons on every verse in the Bible pertaining to tithes and offerings. But I have never heard a sermon based on the mandate found in Mark 12:17 or Luke 20:25: "Render unto Caesar that which is his, and unto God that which is His." Why is this?
___ The King James Version says, "Shall we pay tribute to Caesar?" but all of the modern translations I have read spell it out. "Shall we pay taxes to the government?" The Lord's answer is the same in both.
___ How and why do God's people ignore this mandate? Pick out the biggest, the fanciest house of worship in the land. We throw out our chests and marvel at what our sacrificial gifts to God have done. Sacrificial? Think again.
___ How much of the money represented in this mammoth structure was taken from the government and given to God? Tax deductions. Perfectly legal according to man's law, but what about God's law?
___ If Jesus had anticipated that one day we would have trained experts in the field of legalized tax evasion, he would have had large things to say about it.
___ I also believe God's law eventually will prevail. We are getting closer to a flat tax rate for everybody (no deductions) with each passing administration. And it will be devastating to all charitable institutions. But true Bible-believing Christians will pass the test.
___ Norman D. Gooch Sr.
___ Abilene
Check your candlestick quotient
___ In Revelation, John saw seven golden candlesticks, which represents the churches, and standing in the middle of them was Jesus (Revelation 1:9-20).
___ What does Jesus see when he looks at our candlesticks? Do they shine brightly with the worship of the saints? Or do they just glow a little bright on Sunday morning. What about evening worship? Do they shine brightly or just flicker? Some cannot attend due to illness or job, but where is everyone else? Is not our Lord's worship important?
___ There are 168 hours in each week. We sleep 56 hours. We work 40 50 hours. That leaves 62-72 hours. Yet we have a hard time giving the Lord just four hours in unified worship.
___ The first church worshipped daily in the Temple, (Acts 2:46). Today's Church has difficulty getting together just three times a week. Yes! How does Jesus see our candlestick?
___ We must remember his warning to the church at Ephesus. If our churches do not do his work, we too could have our candlesticks removed from his presence. How many churches have already had this happen because they were disobedient?
___ If we could see Jesus with our eyes, we would be knocking down the church doors to get in. Yet he told us he would be in our midst, (Matthew 18:20).
___ Do you see Jesus standing in the midst of our candlesticks today? How does Jesus see your candlestick, (your church) today? How does he see you?
___ Alvie Stiefer
___ Garden City
Slandering missionaries
___ Herbert Reynolds has been quoted as stating, "We must discontinue sending funds to the Southern Baptist Convention Executive Committee." The majority of those Cooperative Program funds are used to support our missionaries in the United States and
overseas.
___ Reynolds reminds me of many current SBC leaders who would not support our missionaries when they were not in control. Reynolds also warned of supporting missionaries "who have essentially embraced the credo of the fundamentalists and who will win others to Christ around the world under the banner of a dispensationalist-driven theocracy." After 20 years with the SBC International Mission Board, I can testify that Reynolds' statements are ridiculous. Our only credo is the Bible. Our only banner is the kingdom of God. Accusing our missionaries of supporting a dispensationalist-driven theocracy is absurd.
___ Reynolds reminds me of Ron Wilson, a neo-conservative resurgence leader and former IMB trustee, who described our SBC missionaries as neo-orthodox liberals who have been exporting heresy for over a generation. When I challenged him to publicly prove his charges, he couldn't.
___ Reynolds and this trustee and their respective political organizations have more in common than different. Both are willing to slander our missionaries and others if it is to their political advantage.
___ Our current missionaries are just as committed and worthy of support as those I served with in the '70s. It is also true that the missionaries I served with in the '70s were just as conservative theologically as those serving today.
___ Ron West
___ Taichung, Taiwan
Disagree with Vestal
___I disagree with Daniel Vestal. God does not change, nor does he tell us to change with the times. If God does, why don't we allow homosexuals to preach and call their sinful behavior normal? Isn't that being tolerant in this "enlightened" age?
___ A minister is supposed to meet certain requirements. Can a woman be the "husband" of one wife? If women want to serve, let them serve as the Bible states (Titus 2:3-5).
___ In our standing in Christ, we are all the same. Yet in responsibility, we have different jobs according to God's holy word. If the "Spirit" supposedly calls women to be preachers, who's spirit is it? The Holy Spirit will not contradict God's holy word, because God does not contradict himself, and the Holy Spirit only repeats what he has heard (John 16:13).
___ The Bereans were nobler because they searched the Scriptures to see if Paul was truthful. Why is it now not correct to accept the Bible as it stands? Maybe when men get done changing God's holy word to match what the world expects, women preachers will be supported by its changed teachings. But then it won't be God's holy word.
___ I'll stick with my Bible that I know God has blessed and preserved. I know I stand on the rock and will not be moved, even though the whole world condemns me. Why? Because the Bible tells me so.
___ Ralph E. Zecco
___ Socorro, N.M.
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