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Use the Quran to share Christ with Muslim, veteran missionary suggests Print E-mail
By George Henson, Staff Writer   
Published: December 31, 2009

ANGLETON—Winning Muslim converts to Christianity is difficult, but veteran missionary Kevin Greeson knows a way—start with the Quran.

Greeson, who has served 16 years with the Southern Baptist International Mission Board working to start Christian movements among Muslims in Bangladesh, Pakistan and Nepal, stressed the importance of spreading the good news of Christ with Muslims.

“The best way to fight terrorism is to share the gospel. And I believe that not because I want to fight terrorism, but because there are lost people,” he explained.

Debating religious tenets with Muslims is a waste of time, Greeson added. Muslims are taught to memorize the Quran in Arabic, not analyze it, he said.

Missionary Kevin Greeson suggests that evangelical witness to Muslims should start with the Quran.

“Even in Pakistan, where they speak Urdu, boys memorize the Quran in Arabic. They are not allowed to ask what anything means. They are told the words are too holy for them. Just memorize,” Greeson said.

Still, Christians must attempt to share the gospel with Muslims, Greeson insisted. But his goal focuses less on individual conversions and more on starting spiritual movements that will result in thousands of Muslims becoming followers of Christ.

“Our generation can’t afford to be satisfied or happy with winning one lost person to Christ. There are so many lost people, we can’t be happy with that,” he said.

And the tide is turning, Greeson said. “Almost every missionary serving now is seeing fruit among Muslims. Something is cooking out there. Something big is happening.”

Many thousands of Muslims are converting to Christianity on the Arab Peninsula and in Iran, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh and Indonesia, he said.

“Don’t think it’s limited to the other side of the world,” Gresson cautioned. “It can happen here. It’s got to happen here.”

But making it happen depends on finding a few key Muslims who can become the catalyst for a spiritual movement, he stressed.

“With a Muslim, you are always an outsider. Find that insider. You can’t get to all his relatives. You are an outsider. He has access,” he continued.

Greeson offered another word of caution. “When you find a person of peace, don’t make him join your church, comb his hair different and make him like you. Disciple him, but don’t make him go through an eight-month discipleship program. Messy people start movements. Don’t try to clean them up.”

Greeson’s first two years working with Muslims largely was unsuccessful, he admits. “Everything was thrown back at me.” They didn’t believe Jesus was the Son of God or that he died and rose again. They did not accept the Bible as authoritative, so quoting Scripture was useless. Greeson had to learn how to communicate with Muslims in ways that would not cause them immediately to shut down the conversation.

“Salaam-Alaikum” or “peace be to you” is a greeting that often lowers defenses, he suggested. Greeson then follows that up with the invitation: “Let’s read the Quran together about Jesus.”

Greeson discovered a Christian movement in a village where there were many conversions from Islam, and he asked about the catalyst for the transformation. The approach Greeson now teaches— “The Camel Method”—stems from that encounter.

The name of the method comes from an Arabic saying: Every good Muslim knows 99 names for Allah, but only the camel knows the 100th name. “We tell them we know the 100th name. It’s Jesus,” Greeson explained.

The Camel Method uses the Quran to establish three main points: ’Isa, or Jesus, is holy; ’Isa has power over death; and ’Isa knows the way to heaven.

Using selected verses from the Quran, the Camel Method doesn’t teach or lecture, but asks questions.

The 45th verse of Imran addresses Jesus as Masih ’Isa. “Ask them what does Masih ’Isa mean? Muslims know the meanings of their names. Names are important to them, but most won’t know this one,” Greeson said. “Then you can tell them that it means messiah or anointed one.”

Next, ask if any other of the 124,000 prophets the Muslims revere was given that designation, he instructed. None were. This demonstrates the uniqueness of Christ.

In the 47th verse of Imran, Mary the mother of Jesus testifies she never had been touched by a man. Ask if any other prophet was born without a father, and Muslims typically will answer, “Adam.” Let them tell the story of the Garden of Eden until the point where Adam is forced to leave paradise because of his sin.

Note all of Adam’s and Eve’s descendents likewise have been sinful, but Jesus wasn’t included in that line.

The 49th verse of Imran says ’Isa, or Jesus, has can “bring dead to life.”

“At this point, I say, ‘My greatest fear is death, and I’m grateful there is one who has power over it,” Greeson suggested.

Verse 54 of Imran says God has a plan, and verse 55 describes that plan. It says that Allah will cause ’Isa to die and then will exalt him. It goes on to say that those who deny the truth that ’Isa proclaims will be far below those who follow his truth.

Greeson suggests asking if any of the 124,000 can help a person get to heaven.

“I’ve never gotten any answer other than ’Isa,” he said.

At that time, a Muslim is prepared to hear the plan of salvation using verses 54 and 55—Korbani Plan of Salvation.

“Korbani” means sacrifice. The Quran points out a blood sacrifice is needed to cover sins, and Muslims go through a ritual every year where they slaughter an animal to cover their sins. That gives an opening to talk about Christ’s sacrifice, Greeson said.

Let them know Allah’s plan was for one perfect person to be sacrificed who would take all sin for all time.

Next, a Christian witness can talk about accepting Christ’s sacrifice. Greeson said to ask if a judge let a guilty man go if that would be justice, which will bring a negative answer, because a judge has to give punishment for wrongs.

“But ’Isa came and said, I have clean hands, put their judgment on me. That was God’s plan,” Greeson explains.

He acknowledged that the process takes time, and many fall away due to pressures from their society. But, he said, Christians must be diligent in telling the good news to Muslims because God already is preparing hearts to hear the gospel.

 

 





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The Insider Movement is heresy
written by PirkeyJo, January 01, 2010
The Insider Movement mentioned in the article above is nothing short of heresy. These, hopefully well meaning Christians, are encouraging Muslims to remain inside Islam and follow a false Christ, a false Christ as defined in the Quran. This movement is not from the Lord and grossly deviates from a biblical missiology. Many great works are being written and posted on the Biblical Missiology web site and DVDs of a conference refuting this false teaching can be found on www.i2ministries.org that hosts a number of Christians who were Muslim and professors of apologetics to Islam. This "movement" is on the forefront of many blogs and online sites right now because, finally, missionaries all around the world are taking a stand against it.

http://www.shoutsofjoyministries.com/InJesus/Pigeonholing_Nationally.shtml
web site to find interesting articles about C5/ Insider Movement
written by PirkeyJo, January 01, 2010
Baptists should be outraged!
written by Biblical Missiology, January 01, 2010
Utilizing the Koran, and other 'Islamic' articles is involving yourself with idolatry. This is the same as the "Common Word", "Insider Movement" "C5" heresies. Why is it that missionaries feel the need to innovate away from what the scripture of God (the Bible for those who didn't realize this) and rely on other scriptures, social sciences, etc... God's strategy is simple, share the gospel. yes, it's a stumbling block, but it's His stumbling block, not ours or Satans. We are NOT in a number's game. We are in a gospel telling for the purpose of glorifying God purpose! Stop doing missions like it's about numbers, and start doing missions like it's about God's glory. Get back to the root of Biblical Missiology, not Social Strategy Missiology. There is a great site: http://biblicalmissiology.org that delves into what is true Biblical Missiology untainted by man's wacky and foolish schemes. Myself and other Christians from a Muslim Background (CMBs) are really frustrated and frankly sick and tired of these foolish strategies that ultimately don't work and create cults and false believers more than not.
Changing the text of the Bible
written by biblicalmissiology, January 01, 2010
It is also a major disappointment that the IMB (And Wycliff, and several other Para-church organizations) has been part of translating the Bible into a "Muslim Friendly" translation that removes the phrases "Son of God" "Father" and other terms in the Bible so as not to offend Muslims. It is frustrating, and downright Anti-Biblical, and heretical. And to what end I cannot say, as the Muslims constantly claim that the Bible has changed, and here goes the IMB & Wycliff Bible Translators proving to them that in fact, the Bible has changed! Changed by foolish Missionaries thinking "creatively" but doing the Devils work nonetheless. Again, when the motivation is numbers, and not the Glory of God, then these heresies are bound to happen. Especially when these organizations are funded with such large monies by unsuspecting laity, who have no clue how their money is spent, but simply want to hear 'stories' and see the numbers, and not authentic deeply disciples passionate born-again Christians who can reproduce themselves organically. This is a product of commercialized Missions. If I seem upset, I am, as I have seen missions grow in the last decades, but also grow less Biblical, and more cancerous to the point it is spreading heresy and not Christ. Missions is 100% about Glorifying God, not about saving souls. God saves souls, not missions. Does your missions strategy reflect this?
You are all missing the point
written by JoeSnow, January 01, 2010
The point of evangelizing is to bring others to Christ. You can't drag people kicking and screaming from another religion especially one as deeply embedded in it's followers as Islam. They will stop any conversation on the matter immediately. The only way to get through to them is to turn their own religion against them as it were in order to show them the truth. The point isn't to get them to accept Jesus as messiah while still remaining Muslim, the point is to get them to accept Jesus as messiah so you can pull them away from Islam. It is no heresy to convert Muslims to Christianity in this way when they will not accept the Bible as the truth. You have to have a starting point to get them to accept the Bible and starting with showing them how even the Quran says Jesus is the messiah is the best place possible to start. When the end finally comes these brave people can say to Jesus "I persevered and made these Muslims know you, Lord." How many of you will be able to say the same?
Joe Snow you need to do your home work.
written by PirkeyJo, January 01, 2010
You say, "The point of evangelizing is to bring others to Christ." The problem with this Camel method of evangelism is that they are keeping the Quran's definition of Christ, Christ as revealed in the Q'uran, and that is a false Jesus.

You then say, "The point isn't to get them to accept Jesus as messiah while still remaining Muslim, the point is to get them to accept Jesus as messiah so you can pull them away from Islam." But you have not been made aware of the Camel Methods belief to keep Muslim's inside Islam. See http://www.commonpathalliance.org. They actually tell these Muslims that God created them Muslim and that they should remain inside Islam. This teaching is very dangerous.

We had a conference here in our area this late summer, at a very large Evangelical Church, Christ the Rock Community Church, Menasha, WI, that I listened to in it's entirety. It is heresy. They are teaching that Muslim's can stay inside of Islam, say the Shahadah, (that Mohamed is a prophet) and attend the Mosque while following Jesus. I heard this with my own ears.

They have to redefine Jesus to be able to do these things. Similar to a Mormon or a Jehovah Witness, they redefine Christ and in effect render themselves with a false Jesus. They need to forsake that understanding of who Jesus is and the demon behind it, and except Christ for who He is, as revealed in the Bible, to be saved.

There is a lot not being said in this article. And to post it as is, is a disservice to all Baptists, especially those without a good Biblical back ground and a heart for Muslims.

This is becoming a very important topic and will gain importance as the Politically correct agenda saturates the Church. God hates it when leaders of the Church pigeon hole Christianity with Islam.
Excellent
written by Dr. J, January 01, 2010
Personally I found missionary Greeson's comments enlightening. I never saw any indication of heresy, contrary to several of the posted comments.

I don't believe Bro. Greeson believes that once a Muslim becomes a believer you keep encouraging them to use the Koran for discipleship. But like with any effort to evangelize someone, you must begin where they are in order to move them to where they need to be.

Was Christ a heretic for dialoging with the woman at the well (John 4) and beginning where she was, i.e. in the Samaritan culture and religion? Paul said that to the Jews he became a Jew, to those under the Law as one under the Law, etc.

The fact that not everyone is comfortable reaching out to those who are different from traditional Christians does not necessarily make that person a heretic... it makes them a missionary.

As a former IMB missionary, and still a missionary for God, I understand the value of meeting people where they are, and using what they understand in order to help them come to meet Jesus. Once they invite Christ into their lives, He leads them into all truth, and out of the bondage of their current religion, culture, or lifestyle.

From my point of view this was the first practical "how to" witnessing guide for reaching Muslims. I liked it.
Using the Quran
written by ghoussney, January 02, 2010
Using the Quran is not the problem. Using it wrongly is the problem. Kevin's claim that the Quran says that God will cause Jesus to die, is misleading. The Quran is not referring to the redemptive death of Jesus on the cross. Islamic doctrine has Jesus returning to earth to live as an ordinary man, get old, get married then die a natural death, then comes the resurrection. To interpret it otherwise is deceptive. Muslims who have been swayed by this method later discovered the deception and have fallen back to Islam and hating Christianity. I Know a number of these. Another problem with the Camel method is its view of the Quran. The Quran is not an innocent piece of literature. It is a book straight from hell. It is the book that has kept over a billion people in darkness. It is one thing to quote a verse here and there, it is another to consider it the starting point. It is not. Check out http://horizonsinternational.org/training/engaging_islam
The deeper agenda
written by pierrerashad, January 02, 2010
The things in this article may seem harmless and interesting, but the movement from which it comes is full of cultural misunderstandings. As a middle-easterner, I can say that many westerners think they are being culturally sensitive by using certain phrases, and by honoring the Qur'an, but they are actually communicating acceptance of the Islamic religious system. They try to reinterpret Islam for Muslims and end up focusing them on twisted little bits of the Qur'an rather than teaching them the Bible, which is the whole truth.
Honestly this is just like how Jehovah's witnesses hijack the Bible and twist it to say things it simply does not.
Yes, be culturally sensitive, but please, stick to the Bible. It's the only source of truth about Jesus. Shouldn't that be obvious???
Return to the gospel
written by ghoussney, January 02, 2010
As one who has come to Christ by Southern Baptist work in Lebanon, it saddens me that the IMB is diverting away from their original calling. Though cultural issues need to be addressed at some time, our main occupation should be the salvation of their souls. Everything else is secondary. One more thing, quoting the Quran a little is OK but the power is not in the Quran, it is in God's Holy Word, the Bible. Quoting too much of the Quran gets people's mind away from the true revelation of God in the 66 books "breathed by the Holy Spirit. Please Baptists speak up against this divergence to your pastors and check out our website http://biblicalmissiology.org. Please write a comment on any article you may like.
Biblical Jesus is NOT the Qur'anic Isa
written by Elijah Abraham, January 02, 2010
As a Christian from a Muslim Background, was saved in a SBC church, trained in SBC seminary, and trained IMB missionaries; CAMEL was and is the wrong way in reaching Muslims for Christ. I expressed my concerns to IMB people in 2002-03 just before they embraced this method. Kevin Greeson and other missionaries like him are making the same assumption that the Biblical Jesus is the same as the Qur'anic Isa. To believe that is blasphemy. It is interesting, IMB missionaries that I trained and meet in the field tell me this method is not realistic, does not work, and they don't use it. Even an IMB official told me last May that it does not work. YET, the IMB is still behind it and has been promoting it in American churches in the US. I think they are to proud to admit that they invested God's money un-wisely and this CAMEL need to be put to pasture. Some IMB missionaries like to take credit for the Holy Spirit work in Muslim countries, that is why IMB guys like Kevin cannot identify the Holy Spirit work and calls it "Something is cooking out there, something big is happening." Those of us who have been in Muslim countries know it is the Holy Spirit work, why is it hard to acknowledge that?
...
written by PirkeyJo, January 02, 2010
Dr. J, You write, "The fact that not everyone is comfortable reaching out to those who are different from traditional Christians does not necessarily make that person a heretic... it makes them a missionary." What makes someone a heretic is when they deviate away from the orthodox beliefs of Christianity, the core beliefs that make us Christian. When a so called :missionary" goes in to a Muslim community and begins to share about Isa He is NOT sharing the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Isa is a redefined sudoJesus created by Mohamed the false prophet. If you are leading deceived people to follow a false Jesus then you are a heretic. You are a missionary when you go out and make disciples of the only one true Jesus.

This article alone does not hold enough information in it that speaks to the underlying method of missions that promote the heretical ideas that we have found. Check out the false teachings on this web site: www.commonpathalliance.com In one of the articles they equate Jesus with Mohammad and the Quran with the Bible.
comment from Kevin G.
written by Kevin Greeson, January 04, 2010
Several comments have been made in reference to George Henson's article that I would like to give a reply or clarification.

The church planting movements in Bangladesh where this method was extracted have been examined by several missionaries within the IMB and those serving with other mission agencies. None have labeled the movements we are associated with as C5 or part of the “Insider Movement”. Dr. Phil Parshall, a former missionary in Bangladesh, author, and professor at Columbia International University examined the movements in 2005 and correctly labeled them as C4 and not a part of the “Insider Movement” classification. IMB missionaries, including myself, are often asked to speak at conferences representing the anti-C5 position. My supervisor for the past 7 years wrote an article in the IJFM missions journel against "Insider Movements". It is a mistake to label the Camel Method and IMB missionaries using the Camel Method as being involved in C5 (extreme contextualization) approaches. We have instructions from the IMB trustees that we are not to be involved in C5 practices.

Muslims who come to faith in Christ that we are associated with no longer see the Qur’an as they did before and hold the Bible as their authority alone. They are distinct from the Islamic faith as demonstrated by the intense persecution they all receive from Muslims. They call themselves “Isahi” (followers of Jesus).

Pirkey Jo has been mislead to believe that “the Camel Method’s belief (is) to keep Muslims inside Islam”. He is confusing this method with other mission organizations who have gone to extremes in contextualization. Muslim converts (Isahi) who we are acquainted with take baptism, believe there is no way to heaven but through Jesus, meet in house churches, sing praise songs, have quiet times, read their Bibles, collect tithes, stop attending the mosque, attend Bible training events, and share Jesus with their friends and relatives. There are over 100,000 Isahi in Bangladesh and they are growing.

There are over 6000 verses in the Qur’an, the Camel Method uses 14 verses as “talking points” that get the conversation on to Jesus and the Bible. These verses bridge the conversation away from the Qur’an to the Bible in one sitting with a Muslim. The Camel Method training guides missionaries to never leave the presence of a Muslim without sharing the Gospel using the Korban (Sacrifice) Plan of Salvation based on Hebrews 9 & 10. At the conclusion, Muslims are led to pray, “I confess that I am a sinner and that I deserve to be forever separated from you when I die. I thank You for demonstrating Your love and mercy by sacrificing Yourself for me. I thank Jesus for taking my sin upon Himself along with my punishment. I believe that it is through Jesus that I am able to be forgiven of my sins and come to live with You in heaven when I die.”

One gross error written by “biblicalmissiology” stating that IMB missionaries have “…been part of translating the Bible into a "Muslim Friendly" translation that removes the phrases "Son of God" "Father"….” This simply is not true. We have fought the C5 mission organizations who have attempted to remove or soften the phrase “Son of God”. I doubt you will find one IMB missionary who is involved in this C5 practice.
Dr. Phil Parshall's endorcement of the Camel Method
written by Kevin Greeson, January 04, 2010
I thought it might be helpful if I provided you with Phil's letter...

September 23, 2007
To Whom It May Concern:

Greetings. I am an SIM (Serving in Mission) “Missionary-at-large,” presently based in Charlotte, NC. My wife and I served in Bangladesh from 1962 to 1982. We had extremely close working relationships with IMB folk, whom I hold in highest regard. Jim McKinley is one of the most dedicated missionaries I have ever met anywhere. From 1984 to 2006 Julie and I served in the Philippines among Muslims.

One of the most exciting new tools to enhance outreach among Muslims is Kevin Greeson’s Camel. I am totally supportive of this approach and feel Kevin is postulating a methodology that is biblically conservative as well as contextually appropriate. As recent as July, I required this book as a text in my class on Islam at Columbia International University. The students were 100 percent enthused with the postulates set forth in Camel, and were committed to implementation of the strategy where contextually appropriate in the countries where they labor.

There has been some confusion concerning whether Camel represents a C5 position: i.e., have Muslim Background Believers (MBBs) remain in the mosque, say the Islamic creed, delete “Son of God” from New Testament translations, and call themselves Muslims without qualifier. I was on the 2005 IMB survey team in Bangladesh and saw no evidence whatsoever of C5 in any of the IMB-related ministry. I personally interviewed 72 MBBs in Bengali and each one gave a clear profession of faith. On the scale developed by John Travis, the work is C4, which is what I have practiced and taught since 1975. I am sorry that some folk have felt my Evangelical Missions Quarterly articles were concerned about a Camel-type approach. Not true. My concern is C5, of which I saw and heard nothing in my Bangladesh visit and see no evidence of in Camel.

It would be my heartfelt desire that this controversy over Camel not be used by Satan to distract IMB from the new, exciting direction they have taken in Muslim outreach. This is a kairos moment in evangelistic opportunity. IMB has personnel and resources that can be extremely effective in bringing Muslims to the feet of Jesus.

With warm appreciation….

A Fellow Baptist,

Phil Parshall
Checking sources
written by biblicalmissiology, January 04, 2010
Kevin,

I do not want to say something that is false, so I'm checking with my sources once again with some CMBs from Bangladesh I know, and some others who have dealt with the Bible Translations. Perhaps there was some miscommunication, so I will triple-check the IMB's involvement in Muslim-friendly Translations. I will post the results back here.



Camel Method
written by PirkeyJo, January 05, 2010
Okay I need to apologize here. I was going bonkers in my earlier posts on the Insider Movement paradigm and was under the assumption that the Camel Method was in fact completely a C5 method to missions. Let me say this, I don't know first hand how much this method crosses over into C5, and I don't think it's my place to try to ferret it out. My problem is with the pigeonholing of Christianity with Islam in any way and what I have experienced thus far is the Insider Movement and the Common Ground, Common Path stuff. I have read the Camel Method in some ways intersects these beliefs but I do not know how. Maybe some of you posting can speak to this?
Here are some links to what others have written about the Camel Method].
written by biblicalmissiology, January 05, 2010
The ultimate problem with using the Koran is that it uses the Islamic Isa to point to the Christian Jesus. Isa and Jesus are not the same person. And when we know that Satan was part of the making of the Koran to point away from Christ. We should be extremely careful. I have also utilized the Koran before it was called the Camel method. I saw little fruit from it. I saw fruit from plainly presenting the gospel.


Unveiling Islam: An Insider's Look at Muslim Life and Beliefs By Ergun Mehmet Caner
http://books.google.com/books?id=vKfLV-OOEBAC&pg=PT238&lpg=PT238&dq=camel method ergun caner&source=bl&ots=46upUe9ip9&sig=5AFSpls9jTBFPfyrpXTuR5MON20&hl=en&ei=RTICS_2rLpPQngex3rlk&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBMQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=&f=false

A Theologian’s Response to Contextualization
http://sbctoday.com/2009/01/09/a-theologians-response-to-contextualization/#more-342

http://www.founders.org/blog/2006/11/camels-secretshould-christians-be.html
IMB & 'Muslim-Friendly' Bible (Mis)Translations
written by biblicalmissiology, January 08, 2010
Mr Green, and all,

I checked my sources and have confirmed that the IMB was part of the Muslim Friendly (Mis)translation of the Bible for the Malaysian Bible, that intentionally (and against much protest) changed the phrases like "Son of God" from a literal translation to something that the Malays even agree is not a proper translation with the same meaning, but an altogether meaning. For his protection I'll only give an acronym D.L., is an IMB worker in Malaysia. There is a huge controversy about the translation of the Malaysian Bible, so much so, even I have heard about it in the field where I was at in the Middle East.

Mr. Green, it appears as far as I know, you are in error.

However Mr. Green is right. "Officially" the IMB is against C5. Their policy can be stated here: http://www.imb.org/main/news/details.asp?StoryID=6197&LanguageID=1709 I can only hope their policy is rigorously enforced. However, their policy doesn't address Muslim (mis)translations of the Bible.


Sadly IMB is not the only ones. Wycliffe-SIL is without a doubt involved in the Arabic (mis)translation of the Bible headed (fronted?) by Mazhar Mallouhi. "Leith Gray" (a pseudonym for a Wycliffe-SIL missionary) is on this Arabic "translation" committee. We have been told by a very reliable person that "Leith Gray" (who is with WBT/SIL) was one of the people on Mazhar's "translation" committee and pushed very hard to remove "Son of God" from this particular work. We also have some information from a Common Ground conference in AZ in 2008 that has some very revealing things about Leith Gray's feelings about "translation" and it only confirms what these examples show.

Other Organizations like Frontiers and OC that have been involved in the Indonesian (mis)translation of the Bible that had terms they used to substitute "Lord" and "Son of God". See the discussion as a result of an article, "Identity Theft" in EMQ, April 2007 & in EMQ, Oct. 2007


The problem with C5ers, IMers, Common Grounders, Bible (Mis)translators is that it is difficult to get a clear answer in writing. With some people, you won't get it in speaking with them. If a person is open and clear, then you can get the actual steps they have taken or steps that others have taken. But many people in the main evangelical mission agencies today like OC, NAVIGATOR, YWAM, C&MA, etc. are afraid to be too clear in describing what is done so they sort of beat around the bush- such as this writer has said: "several background issues which make the whole Son of God issue difficult to approach." People are concerned about their colleagues, their leaders, their agencies, and their churches. This entire so-called IM, Common Ground, C5 approach has created insecurity and paranoia among many missionaries. In many cases, they are colleagues in the same area of ministry and mixing with the same general group of people, both foreign and national. With Americans, any questioning of a person's methodology is usually taken as a personal attack and is responded to as such. It makes things very uncomfortable. The consequence of an enquiry is usually the end of communication. Americans and other westerners will generally not discuss their theology or methodology with you if you disagree with them. They will not tell you what they are actually doing. Thus, a great barrier of secrecy (commonly referred to as "security") has arisen on the mission fields as a result. It is a phenomenon of this generation.
Tying in CAMEL Method, Insider Movement, & Heresy using Camel Method's own materials.
written by biblicalmissiology, January 14, 2010
The following was written by a friend of mine, but clearly places the Camel in the C5 classification (Heresy according to IMB) according to their own tracts:



Below is a link to one of the Camel Method tracts. This should make it pretty clear where they stand.

The IMB has formally condemned C5, so it seems to me that now all the insider types that they support are now vehemently claiming to be C4.
I see this as nothing more than an attempt to keep their funding. If you want to know what they really believe, read their material below.

A few things to notice in the tract:

1. How much the Qur'an is quoted, with specific references, and how readers are encouraged to find a Qur'an in their language (pg 3)
2. How little the Bible is quoted, often without even a reference to which book or whose words the verse is.
3. Sonship of Christ is entirely missing.
4. Muhammad is a prophet, about whom they incessantly say "peace be upon him"
5. Isa is a prophet, about whom they do not even once say "peace be upon him"
6. Jesus is portrayed as scapegoat-saviour, but not as Lord.
7. Their goal is to create "Pakka Muslims" (true, or completed Muslims), not Christians.
8. There is no call to repentance or holiness.
9. The main conclusion is "if you want to go to heaven, say this prayer and Allah will put your sins on the prophet Isa" The tract ends with this:

"Today you, too, can become a Pakka Muslim. All you have to do is to believe that Allah gave the korban for you, substituting Isa for you.
Stop now, hold your hands up before you, and humbly tell Allah that you receive His korban and thank Him for placing on Isa the
punishment for your guilt and sins. In this way, Allah will forgive you of your sin and remove its curse from
you. When you are cleansed of your sins, then you can go to be with Allah after you die. You can now live your life in peace knowing
that after death you can go directly to be with Allah."

My analysis is that they are advocating a superstitious belief that the Prophet Isa can give you a free ticket to paradise. This fits in
great with the multitude of "folk-islamic" beliefs and superstitions that permeate the uneducated masses, but it's not the true gospel.
It's disgusting how they are deceiving ignorant Muslims by twisting the Qur'an to say things that contradict itself.

C5 or not, this is heresy.

http://www.camelmethod.com/downloads/Ruhullah_English_eBook.pdf
Muslims are coming to Christ
written by ghoussney, January 15, 2010
There is a rumor spread by the devil (using Christian spokesmen)that Muslims are difficult to reach for Christ. Well, yes by human effort. But the Holy Spirit is able to penetrate the hardest heart and the toughest mind with conviction of sin, righteousness and judgment. John 16:8 Let me reveal the real secret: THE CROSS. Preach the gospel, tell people Jesus loves them, that he died to give them life. Then you will see one of two results: Many will reject your message, few will accept. Jesus already told us this would happen. "Many are called, few are chosen. Matt 22:14." If a missionary tells you that Muslims are hard to reach as an excuse for their lack of effectiveness ask: "When was the last time you shared the gospel of Jesus with a Muslim?" You will then discover why. Thousands of Muslims are receiving Christ through the traditional methods of witness, the CROSS of power unto salvation. Do not be fooled by claims of "new and innovative methods that are more effective than the old ones." Visit biblicalmissiology.org and engagingislam.org.
Honesty in Identity
written by pierrerashad, January 29, 2010
" “Salaam-Alaikum” or “peace be to you” is a greeting that often lowers defenses, he suggested. Greeson then follows that up with the invitation: “Let’s read the Quran together about Jesus.” "

This sounds like a good idea to someone who doesn't know the culture. After all, it's good to use a greeting that "lowers defenses". However, what Greeson failed to mention is that the reason it "lowers defenses" is that, across the Muslim world, when one says "salaam-Alaikum", or answers it with "Alaikum Salaam", it communicates that they are a Muslim. In fact, this greeting is used partially to check whether the other is a Muslim.

To use this greeting is deceptive, and it's deception is furthered when followed with "Let's read the Quran together about Jesus." The mention of Jesus (especially using the Islamic term "Isa", like the Camel method materials) simply communicates that you are a Muslim that is interested in the prophet Isa.

When this method is used, a few things could be running through a Muslim's mind, but most likely he/she thinks you are a convert from Christianity who still has a fixation on Jesus. Regardless, this is unambiguous deception.

Do I need to say that deception is wrong? Do I need to add that deception is the wrong way to start a conversation?
For the Glory of God Alone
written by biblicalmissiology, January 29, 2010
I encourage all of you to step back and get some perspective: http://biblicalmissiology.org/2010/01/28/for-the-glory-of-god-alone/
Lot's of criticism but little advice
written by jrburr, May 25, 2010
I have searched and searched for good ways to bridge the gap between Christians and Muslims and I stumbled upon this today as the best I've seen so far. I communicate with Muslims online and hence I cannot "life witness" to them easily and need real ways to communicate via email. Almost every resource and site I've visited either has verses that contradict or combat Islam, but hardly any that give solid suggestions on what to say. Most say just live your life well in front of them. While I can see the point that taken too far and without the support of the Bible this method could be taken the wrong way, it gave me some things I could immediately say that were not combative. For those of you that disagreed with the thread, please provide an alternative for me when I communicate primarily through the web.

Thanks

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