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ATLANTA—Retired high-ranking military officers and national security experts at a national summit on torture agreed—a policy that permits torture does not make the United States or its troops safer. Speaking on the seventh anniversary of terrorist attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C., Steve Xenakis, retired brigadier general in the U.S. Army, disputed the assertion that “9/11 changed everything”—including acceptable rules for the treatment of detainees. Xenakis, a medical doctor, participated in the two-day summit on “Religious Faith, Torture and our National Soul” held on Mercer University’s Atlanta campus.
Violation of foundational principles Torture violates at least four key principles, he insisted, labeling it as: ° Un-American. George Washington set the standard during the American Revolution by insisting on the humane treatment of prisoners during wartime. ° Ineffective. Information obtained through extreme coercive physical and mental abuse is unreliable. ° Unnecessary. Skilled interrogators know more effective ways to obtain reliable actionable intelligence. ° Damaging. “The person who is tortured in damaged. But so is the torturer, the nation and the military,” Xenakis concluded. Torture creates “increasing risk of retaliatory measures” that endangers military personnel on the front lines.  Karen Greenberg, executive director of the Center on Law and Security at the New York University School of Law, described to participants at the National Summit on Torture the events that led to shifts in national policy that permitted torture as a means of interrogation. (PHOTO/Stephen Jones) Fear, anger and politics all contributed to the climate that allowed the torture of detainees to become national policy, said Don Guter, retired rear admiral and former Navy Judge Advocate General.Shameful downfall for an exemplary nation Coercive physical and mental abuse of prisoners occurred not just because of “a few bad apples,” but because “those higher up in the chain of command” authorized it, said Guter, dean of the Duquesne University School of Law. “There is a marked difference between something that happens in spite of administrative policy and something that happens because of it,” he said. Guter characterized that policy shift as a “shameful downfall” for a country that set the standard for the humane treatment of prisoners in World War II. Groundbreaking shift in national policy Karen Greenberg, executive director of the Center on Law and Security at the New York University School of Law, recounted the events that led to “groundbreaking” shifts in national policy, making torture an acceptable form of interrogation. By the time the American public saw the first photos detailing the degradation of prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad, at least a dozen reports had been commissioned—mostly by military personnel—following persistent allegations of detainee abuse, she noted. The commander of Joint Task Force 7, the senior U.S. military official in Iraq, ordered a report prepared by Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba, specifically on alleged abuse of prisoners by members of the 800th Military Police Brigade at Abu Ghraib. “Reading the Taguba report was like being transplanted to Mars,” Greenberg said. Beyond the report itself—which detailed the way prisoners were stripped, hooded and subjected to sexual humiliation—more than 1,000 pages of documentation appended to the report revealed the detention and essentially unrestrained interrogation of suspected terrorists had become U.S. policy, she observed. The Military Order of Nov. 13, 2001—an executive order issued by President George W. Bush—granted all authority regarding the detention, treatment and trial of non-citizens in the “war on terror” to the Secretary of Defense. “America could do what it wanted with detainees,” Greenberg said. Five lawyers from the White House, Pentagon and Justice Department—a “war council” convened by Bush and Cheney—developed the legal rationale for circumventing the military code of justice, federal courts and international treaties. High-ranking military and national security officials initially were excluded from those discussions, she noted. And once they learned about the change in policy, they could not believe people they knew and trusted would implement it. What torture produces “I do not think that torture makes us safer as a country,” Greenberg said. Information gained through interrogation is less reliable than data obtained by the established intelligence community, she said, pointing to the experience of Sen. John McCain as a prisoner of war in Vietnam. For the first three and half years of his captivity, when subjected to torture, McCain gave false information to deceive his captors. Greenberg also noted McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, has said his love for country, family and faith grew much deeper as a result of his brutal treatment by those who interrogated him. She asked if the United States wants to support a policy that makes suspected terrorists more committed to their nations, tribes and religions.
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The rationale for torture is that the perpetrator of terror has forfeited his rights by fighting in an especially horrific manner by deliberately targeting civilians for death. Fighting against conscripts in a typical war governed by certain norms of conduct creates a tacit social contract between combatants not to mistreat the other side's prisoners. Terrorists practice no such code of conduct, so they are not entitled to protection against justly inflicting pain on them for punishment and to discover additional terror plots.
It is imperative to uncover terrorist plots within strict time limits in order to protect innocent Americans. The American government's first responsiblity is to its own citizens. The constitutional protections offered its citizens should not apply to foreign terrorists since they are not party to the social contract that formed the nation and its laws. Natural rights should be recognized and respected for all persons by the American authorities, but since terrorists have forfeited their natural rights, American military and intelligence personnel have no duty to be observant of terrorists' rights. American authorities should be free to extract information necessary for the survival of the nation and for the safety of its citizens.
Each of the objections listed in the article I find to be flawed. Let's consider them one by one.
°Un-American. As I pointed out above, there is a history of torture for punishment in the U.S.
° Ineffective. Skilled interrogators can detect lying. They can also seek verifying evidence.
° Unnecessary. There may not be other ways to obtain information as quickly. This is especially important when a terror attack might be imminent. Since coercive interrogations used by police have slowed in the U.S. after the Miranda decision, convictions have dropped dramatically as crime has risen dramatically. The idea that "solid police work" can replace coercive interrogations has not worked domestically.
° Damaging. Fear of retaliation is overblown since the terrorists are already fighting as fiercely as they can against us. They are motivated by hatred of Israel and our support of them, which is independent of our policy on torture. The terrorists see our humanitarian measures as weakness. When we lessen the threat of inflicting pain on them, they are more likely to attack.
I would agree that inflicting sexual humiliation and mocking their religion should be out of bounds. But I see nothing wrong with such measures as water boarding. It is effective and is not harmful to the person undergoing the procedure. Even on humanitarian grounds, it is hard to see the objection to such practices if it saves innocent lives.