Editorial: Talarico and asking God to kill someone
Often mild-mannered Texas State Rep. James Talarico has stirred strong responses during his run for the U.S. Senate. Most of these responses are in opposition to his theological assertions. Two pastors recently voiced perhaps the strongest response yet—prayer for Talarico’s death.
Talarico responded on X: “Jesus loves. Christian Nationalism kills. You may pray for my death, Pastor, but I still love you. I love you more than you could ever hate me.”
Who is this pastor? Did he pray for Talarico’s death? Should we do the same?
A little background
The reported prayer came during Joshua Haymes’ and Brooks Potteiger’s Reformed Red Pill podcast episode posted March 16.
Potteiger is pastor of Pilgrim Hill Reformed Fellowship in Goodletts, Tenn., outside Nashville, and will soon become pastor of Christ Church DC, an extension of Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho, where Doug Wilson is the pastor.
Haymes was a co-pastor of SOMA Venice in Venice, Calif., planted in 2020 and closed in 2023. He then became an intern at Pilgrim Hill.
Pilgrim Hill is affiliated with the Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches. Wilson cofounded CREC and is known for controversial positions on slavery and women’s right to vote.
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth attended Pilgrim Hill and currently attends Christ Church DC.
The podcast
During the podcast, Potteiger and Haymes picked apart various biblical and theological assertions Talarico has made about gender, personhood, procreation, and abortion. Others have expressed concerns about these and other of Talarico’s positions, but not in the way Potteiger and Haymes did.
Haymes started by calling Talarico a “demon” before modifying the label to “demon-possessed person or demon-oppressed … there’s demons involved. That’s all I’m saying.”
Potteiger then called Talarico a “wolf … presenting himself as a Christian in order to distort what Christianity is and to lead people away from Christ towards the teachings of demons.” He then read and applied 2 Timothy 4:3 to Talarico:
“For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions.”
“We as Christians should have a special disdain for this kind of person,” Haymes said. “I love James Talarico. I want him to repent and believe the gospel. He is also an enemy of God who is wearing Christianity as a skin suit and bringing dishonor and shame to the name of my Savior, and I hate that. I hate that.”
Haymes also called for recapturing “a masculine Christianity” that understands winsomeness is not equal to righteousness. Potteiger and Haymes said winsomeness isn’t a problem as long as it is biblical.
The prayer
At the end of the episode, Haymes said, “Well, um, this is the kind of guy you pray imprecatory psalms against.” He chuckled and then added, “And I mean that actually.”
“First and foremost, we pray that a man like this would be cut to the heart. I pray that God kills him. Ultimately, that means killing his heart and raising him up to new life in Christ. That’s the first thing,” Haymes continued.
“We want him crucified … with Christ. I want him to be … Saul of Tarsus—Talarico of Tarsus … that’s what we want,” Potteiger interjected.
“We want death and new life, right? And if it would not be within God’s will to do so, stop him by any means necessary, oh God. That’s why we pray imprecatory psalms even in our Lord’s Day services. We are whole-Bible Christians after all,” Haymes concluded.
‘I pray that God kills him’
It’s understandable secular media has jumped all over a pastor praying God would kill Talarico. Haymes literally said the words, “I pray that God kills him.”
It’s also understandable secular media would not give much attention or credence to Potteiger’s and Haymes’ qualifiers on their talk about God killing Talarico.
One, secular media does not appreciate the meaning phrases like “killing his heart” and “crucified with Christ” carry for many evangelical Christians. Two, Haymes doubled down on the literal meaning of praying God would kill Talarico by concluding with, “Stop him by any means necessary, oh God.”
Haymes justified this kind of prayer against Talarico by categorizing him as a public enemy.
Should we pray this way?
Should we pray God would kill our enemies?
My short answer is, “No.”
As I’ve wrestled with this question and what I understand the New Testament to teach about how we are to respond to enemies—not in a theoretical sense, but in a world where there are real enemies doing great and mortal harm to millions of people—I have come to a place that isn’t natural for me.
In place of desiring wrongdoers get the punishment they deserve, I find myself more and more asking God to stop the wrong and redeem the wrongdoers. Why? Because God did that for me. How could I not want that for others?
Romans 5 is my testimony: “For God demonstrates his own love for us in this: while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. … While we were God’s enemies”—and I was—Christ reconciled us to God through his death (Romans 5:8, 10).
Yes, Talarico espouses positions many Christians consider contrary to Scripture—he and other politicians, regardless of party or position.
Yes, we do need godly leaders. We can be grateful we get to play a role in that through our vote.
Let our zeal for God’s justice and righteousness lead us to ask God to raise up and give us godly leaders. And let it drive us to pray the redeeming and reconciling work of Jesus Christ will be realized even in those we may consider enemies.
Eric Black is the executive director, publisher, and editor of the Baptist Standard. He can be reached at eric.black@baptiststandard.com. The views expressed in this opinion article are those of the author.